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 Post subject: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2010, 02:15 
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I'm trying to decide which AFSC interests me the most. I've researched the hell out of 1N0X1 and was wondering what the typical daily schedule is in any of your experiences. Is it a 7-4:30 job? 8 hour shifts? 12 hour shifts? Weekends and holidays? Shift work?

I'm asking because I am currently beginning my air force paper work and also plan on getting married. I know its a very deployable job (1:1 dwell i've heard) so i'm looking for something that won't further stress our relationship more than it has to.

Also, i'm not worried about ASVAB scores or anything to qualify so don't even mention all that :) and if anyone has any other advice on AFSC's to look into feel free to chime in!


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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 04 Mar 2010, 19:41 
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Not an 1N0 but work a squadron with tons of them.. Depending on where you are will really determine what your hours are. We have people working 12s, but we also have "8-5" people.. At my last base, we had 1N0's who all worked 8-5, but changed schedule for a day or two when the mission called for it. Schedule really depends on location.

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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 05 Mar 2010, 00:56 
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1N0's are kind of one of those catch all AFSC's in that your job, hours, shift work, and deployment rate depend on which base you're stationed at. Sure, you'll be a baseline 1N0 straight out of tech school, but your everyday duties will fluctuate from base to base and shop to shop. You may think you get to decide which base you go to and therefore what kind of schedule you end up with, but you don't.

Straight up, if you're planning on getting married and don't want to stress the relationship, you might want to reconsider going the military in the middle of two separate wars and enlisting in a critically manned career field. Just sayin...


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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 11 Mar 2010, 03:57 
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Thanks for the reply's so far guys!

in response...yes we are both well aware there will be stresses in our relationship, but she's completely on board with me! we're currently trying to go over AFSC's together and compromising on the following factors: deployment rates...Typical hours on a daily basis... what I will enjoy the most... and also what will transfer well to a civilian life IF and WHEN I get out. Although hopefully we'll both enjoy things and I can try for an officer commission and go for career (I do already have a 4 year degree in psychology)

Are there any AFSC's for enlisted which would allow me to use that degree?


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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 11 Mar 2010, 06:15 
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Find a job you enjoy first....then wiegh the deployment rates and duty hours. The longer you stay in, the longer your duty hours become regardless of your afsc. Deployments happen, just a fact o' life (except for me apparently {almost 5 years and still nothing :( }). So out of the things you wiegh the heaviest, try and find a job that's interesting to you.

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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 12 Mar 2010, 03:24 
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I agree, first and most important, find a job that's interesting to you. Hopefully, that AFSC will give you the job satisfaction you need to get through the day since you're being such a nitpick about this and that, because I'll be honest to you (and it could just be because I woke up grumpy for mid-shift) your posts are really rubbing me the wrong way. I mean, are you seriously writing a pro's and con's list about this job and that job?

I totally get putting yourself in a position to excel and succeed and enjoy life. Hell, if I ended up a cop or something, I wouldn't still be around... so I get it. But, guess what, you're going to deploy, that's what the military does, especially now a days. Yes, you will be separated from your wife, ask the Army how that's going for them. Yeah, you'll work long hours, it's a job, suck it up. Yes, you do get paid the same whether you work 12's or 8's. You do not get to decide what base you go to, so stop analyzing bases like that.

At the risk of being considered an asshole, you just sound like some privileged wanna-be just looking out for himself asking "what's in it for me?" Whatever happened to joining the military as a higher calling to serve your country and contribute and all that jazz. Hopefully for you they still instill something called "service before self" in boot camp, beyond all that Airman's Creed kool-aid.

This isn't really aimed at you as much as I want to get it off my chest. I've seen this attitude recently more and more on the internet and IRL, in civilian and AD world. With the economy and unemployment rate the way it is, the AF has no problems meting recruitment goals right now. Hell, I'll be surprised if you actually make it to basic and out of DEP status in less than 6 months, that's how jammed it is. Just remember that when you go to your recruiter with your demands.

/rant over

BTW, if you already have a Bachelors, you should just ask your recruiter about OTS and start out with a commission.


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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 12 Mar 2010, 04:57 
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Radiation wrote:
Deployments happen, just a fact o' life (except for me apparently {almost 5 years and still nothing :( }).


I've been back for 2 years now, from my one and only deployment. And I'm a cop. We're supposed to deploy all the time :? I think the mobility office has forgotten I exist. Oh well, I'm retraining now anyway...


And on the subject of the AF meeting it's recruiting goals: heads up to potential new recruits, think carefully about what job you want. I've heard rumors that tech school wash-outs are now being honorably discharged, instead of being offered a reclass.

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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2010, 17:55 
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Deviant_Tech wrote:
I agree, first and most important, find a job that's interesting to you. Hopefully, that AFSC will give you the job satisfaction you need to get through the day since you're being such a nitpick about this and that, because I'll be honest to you (and it could just be because I woke up grumpy for mid-shift) your posts are really rubbing me the wrong way. I mean, are you seriously writing a pro's and con's list about this job and that job?

I totally get putting yourself in a position to excel and succeed and enjoy life. Hell, if I ended up a cop or something, I wouldn't still be around... so I get it. But, guess what, you're going to deploy, that's what the military does, especially now a days. Yes, you will be separated from your wife, ask the Army how that's going for them. Yeah, you'll work long hours, it's a job, suck it up. Yes, you do get paid the same whether you work 12's or 8's. You do not get to decide what base you go to, so stop analyzing bases like that.

At the risk of being considered an asshole, you just sound like some privileged wanna-be just looking out for himself asking "what's in it for me?" Whatever happened to joining the military as a higher calling to serve your country and contribute and all that jazz. Hopefully for you they still instill something called "service before self" in boot camp, beyond all that Airman's Creed kool-aid.

This isn't really aimed at you as much as I want to get it off my chest. I've seen this attitude recently more and more on the internet and IRL, in civilian and AD world. With the economy and unemployment rate the way it is, the AF has no problems meting recruitment goals right now. Hell, I'll be surprised if you actually make it to basic and out of DEP status in less than 6 months, that's how jammed it is. Just remember that when you go to your recruiter with your demands.

/rant over

BTW, if you already have a Bachelors, you should just ask your recruiter about OTS and start out with a commission.



well Deviant I'm glad you got that out of your system although it made me feel pretty much like a piece of shit. Fuck me I guess for wanting a good life while serving my country and exploring the world.

But anywho I'm not being picky...In fact the I've found AFSC's in almost every category that I believe I would enjoy doing and when I go to MEPS tuesday I have quite a few that I will be putting down without "arguing" about it. I'm not arguing about anything. I'm not going to be mad because i'm deployed 6 months on and 6 months off (which is the band of MOST AFSC's interesting me). being prepared and finding good information about everything I possibly can is in NO WAY having any kind of demands of expectations. I'm perfectly fine with being thrown into a shit storm as long as I see it coming.

But thank you again to anyone that's tried to answer questions I may have had


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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 14 Mar 2010, 01:59 
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Good. Hope you enjoy the AF and get back to us when you have a job and BMT date.


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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 14 Mar 2010, 02:38 
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Deviant_Tech wrote:
Good. Hope you enjoy the AF and get back to us when you have a job and BMT date.


Will do! hopefully I'll know soon and not have to go in open general lol...i shouldn't since most jobs i'm listing are critically manned but I suppose with the military anything you may think is guaranteed usually isn't lol

i have posted a new topic with my current listings for jobs if you'd like to check it out btw.

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also sorry if I came across rude earlier I meant no disrespect what so ever i can assure you. its hard to gauge someones reasoning's for things through a forum and I understand that


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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 16 Mar 2010, 09:40 
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Understand, my main issue was look at deployment rates last, and job first. I dont know your intentions for joining, and as a father and husband totally understand the desire to be at home more often then not, but you shouldn't let it sway you from picking a job you would love to do.

I've found that people dont always join just to serve their county (rarely that is the sole reason for joining).
Hope you stick around and continue to feel confortable asking questions with this community.

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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 06 May 2010, 04:52 
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Question: is intelligence a critically manned afsc for officers?


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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 06 May 2010, 08:54 
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Jason5566 wrote:
Question: is intelligence a critically manned afsc for officers?


Highly doubt it. As of 7 months ago (when I was reclassed) it was a tough field to get into.


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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 06 May 2010, 17:02 
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I'm looking for the official documentations (the new AFPC site and Portal aren't helping), but the 14N career field is, in fact, on the critially manned list. Not sure why jaycee had trouble getting in. Taking it a step further, 14Ns are also in "Band 'E'" for AEF purposes.

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 Post subject: Re: 1N0X1 (Operations Intelligence) Questions
PostPosted: 06 May 2010, 18:13 
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Huh... nice projections there, AFPC. :P

I wasn't trying to get in, I ended up exactly where I wanted. :) A couple other guys I knew were trying to get intel, though - one did (after they initially put him into S/M, then changed their mind) because he had a degree in mid-East studies, the other ended up here with me.


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